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October 31,1862.] THE PHOTOGRAPHIC NEWS. I they were only using a 30-grain silver bath for printing, and i “sing, at the same time, a paper less freely salted. I Mr. Simpson said the plan had often been proposed and often 1 tried, and, under some circumstances, and with some negatives, i doubtless answered ; but as the general experience of photo- Eraphers it had been found desirable to adhere to the use of I itronger baths. The Chairman said he did not put much faith in anything coining from South Kensington. Some prints by Messrs. Hill, Fenn, Seeley, and others, and a Copy of Col. James’s new work on “ Photozincography,” by Mr. I Simpson were then exhibited, and after votes of thanks to Mr. | Dawson and Mr. Seeley, the proceedings terminated. 1 Apaper on “ Washed Collodion,” by Mr. Hislop, was promised w next meeting. Corxespoudence. PHOTOLITHOGRAPHY IN VICTORIA. Sir,—In your journal of Friday last I find an anonymous tommunicaton casting a doubt on my originality as inventor I the photolithographic process which bears my name. Had this letter been published in Melbourne, it would be quite un- I Decessary for me to reply, but under present circumstances I । may venture to make a few short statements which will serve '? show that your correspondent is in error, and but very par- I felly acquainted with the facts about which he writes. j The only statement of importance contained in “ Mel- hourne's ” letter, is one to the effect that I obtained the first llea of my process from M. Asser of Amsterdam, If this were ” it would matter very little, for both Col. Sir H. James’s me- thod and mine differ quite sufficiently from M. Asser’s to entitle them to be regarded as distinct and new. Such, however, was Dot the case. M. Asser’s process was not published in England tntil some time in December 1859, that is, more than three Ponths after mine had been in active operation at the Survey Office, Melbourne. The notice of it to which reference 1 made by “ Melbourne,” appeared in your journal in May 1850, and consisted of the bare statement that M. Asser exhi lited certain pogtives transported io stone in lithographic qk, adding, at He same time, that the specimens were far Bom perfect. This notice, such as it is, might have come to ' lelbourne about the period when I began photolithography, Dt not only did I neither seo nor hear of it then, but I have lever seen it yet, every exertion of mine while in Melbourne to °tain that copy of the “ News ” having proved unsuccessful. At the time I speak of, the “ Nows ” was a journal but little known in Melbourne, and I never heard of any person possess- Ilg the number in question but Mr. Perry, from whose printed Gvidence alone I obtained the first knowledge of this early notice of M. Asser’s experiments. . The fact is Asser’s process was not known or talked of in “lelbourne for months after mine had been introduced, and it "as assumed by those who thought it right to oppose me, that 1 W imitated M. Poitevin of Paris, Mr. Perry himself supplying me information which he imagined would be conclusive for that Purpose. It was about six months after the date of my patent mat the December number of the “ News ” reached Melbourne, Anit was then that attention was directed towards it for the l;r 't time. Be that as it may, the paragraph in question was laid before mo Photolithographic Board appointed by Government, as well 28 before another tribunal to which I shall presently refer, and Npported by all the arguments which a strong feeling of opposi- lion to me could suggest, notwithstanding which the Report "as distinct in pronouncing my originality. " Melbourne ” informs you that Mr. Perry called a public meeting of photographers and others. He founded the Photo- graphic Society of Victoria ; became its president; set forth, in ''lengthy statement, the evil I had done, and received power । that meeting to act for them, and to resist and expose, as 'e might think fit, my claims as an inventor. This was 'dually the fact (and I am sorry to say, that it is almost the any statement in “ Melbourne’s ” letter, respecting which he MI do not differ) ; but what subsequently took place ho has » and this information it is incumbent on me to supply. Before I joined the society, notice was given, and a motion '"Tied nt the next meeting, in virtue of which a committee of "Ten members, elected by ballot, was appointed to enquire into my claims to originality, the utility of my process, &o. Pending the enquiry undertaken by these gentlemen, a motion, of which notice had been duly given, was carried nt an ordinary meeting, to the effect that Mr. Perry’s address, referred to by “ Melbourne,” as having been delivered at the formation of the society, should be cancelled and expunged from the minutes (upon which it had been entered verbatim), as unbecoming and personal. Finally, after about six months’ work, the committee brought up their report, having examined every witness who had, or thought he had, any information calculated to throw light upon the subject of their labours. Their unanimous decision was, that my process was perfectly original, and superior to any other then known. At a very full meeting of the society, this report was adopted without a dissentient voice, the president, who was in the chair, having the good sense to remain silent on that oc casion, and a copy of it was ordered to be sent to the leading journals, in which it appeared, more or less fully, on the follow ing morning (4th of June, 1861). I shall abstain from disproving other erroneous insinuations to be found in “ Melbourne’s ” letter, not from want of the material or the power to do so, but because I believe that enough has been said, and that to go into the subject at greater length would involve explanations of a nature hardly interesting to the readers of your Journal.—I am, Sir, yours obediently, J. W. Osborne. 28, Lorrimore Square, Kennington Park, S., 27 Oct., 1862. [We shall have a few observations on this subject in our next.—Ed.] Dhotographit Zlotes an QQueries. Clouds in Landscapes. Dear Sir,—Can you inform me of a good illustrated work on clouds? Artistic photographers have, we know, been long dis satisfied with universally white skies in landscapes. Now, their desire to increase artistic effect, has produced an attempt at something better than a mere shaded sky, and though the results are, with few exceptions, any thing but satisfactory, they in dicate a growing ambition for something better, which should bo encouraged. Our exhibitions show how imperfect and un satisfactory are the various mechanical dodges for putting in skies. Good effects may be obtained where the sky in the negative is transparent enough to print through, which is now the rule instead of the exception, by printing clouds upon it. But to render such effects truthfully, and in harmony with the rest of the picture, the eye and hand of the painter are required, and even that is insufficient unless the painter be also a photographer, or at least accustomed to study negatives with a view to their printing capacities. My impression, is that it would be a great inducement to amateurs to practise their hands at putting in these aerial touches, if they had some good examples of clouds to study from, drawn, or what would be bettor, photographed from nature. I imagine a series of sky and cloud studies, taken during the photographic hours, showing their characteristic forms, more common combinations, with the disposition of light and shade upon them, as seen by the eye of the camera, though too often obliterated on the plate, could be obtained of a moderate size, say with Dallmeyer’s small triplet, by many of our photographers, those living by the sea-side having the advantage as regards site, in the course of twelve months. I am persuaded, moreover, that there are some amongst us who could make such a work of very general interest, by adding valuable information, artistic and meteorological, to the illus trations ; and even render it remunerative in a commercial point of view, if that were a consideration. In hopes that these, not altogether disinterested suggestions, may be supported by others feeling the same want, 1 beg the favour of your publishing this letter, and remain, yours truly, G. S. Penny. Cheltenham, October 2Hth, 1862. [We do not at this moment remember any work solely devoted to clouds. There are some excellent hints on the subject, with illustrations, in a little work on marine painting, by Carmichael, published by Winsor and Newton, a little work which will well repay perusal. We should stronglyrecommend, however, photographers to make their own cloud studies.
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